WITH SPANISH NAMES TRYING TO ENTER THIS COUNTRY. ENTER THIS COUNTRY. WE WILL COVER THAT LATER IN THIS WE WILL COVER THAT LATER IN THIS HOUR. HOUR. WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE CONTINUING STRUGGLE FOR CONTINUING STRUGGLE FOR DEMOCRACY, AND FREEDOM AROUND DEMOCRACY, AND FREEDOM AROUND THE WORLD, A STRUGGLE THAT DOES THE WORLD, A STRUGGLE THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE NOT HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. TONIGHT, ORDER HAS BEEN RESTORED TONIGHT, ORDER HAS BEEN RESTORED AT THE AIRPORT IN HONG KONG, AND AT THE AIRPORT IN HONG KONG, AND MOST FLIGHTS SEEM TO BE RUNNING MOST FLIGHTS SEEM TO BE RUNNING CLOSE TO SCHEDULE AFTER THIS CLOSE TO SCHEDULE AFTER THIS WEEK’S HONG KONG’S AIRPORT WEEK’S HONG KONG’S AIRPORT BECAME THE SCENE OF WHAT MAY BE BECAME THE SCENE OF WHAT MAY BE THE MOST IMPORTANT AND DANGEROUS THE MOST IMPORTANT AND DANGEROUS PROTESTS OF CHINA SINCE THE PROTESTS OF CHINA SINCE THE UPRISING IN BAY UPRISING IN BAY UPRISING UPRISING UPRISING IN BEIJING AND UPRISING IN BEIJING AND TIANANMEN SQUARE, KILLING AN TIANANMEN SQUARE, KILLING AN UNKNOWN NUMBER OF PROTESTERS, UNKNOWN NUMBER OF PROTESTERS, MOSTLY STUDENTS. MOSTLY STUDENTS. AT THAT TIME, HONG KONG WAS NOT AT THAT TIME, HONG KONG WAS NOT YET OFFICIALLY A PART OF THE YET OFFICIALLY A PART OF THE PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. PEOPLE’S REPUBLIC OF CHINA. THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT FORMALLY THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT FORMALLY SURRENDERED ITS CONTROL OF HONG SURRENDERED ITS CONTROL OF HONG KONG TO CHINA IN 1977. KONG TO CHINA IN 1977. CHINA PROMISED HONG KONG THE CHINA PROMISED HONG KONG THE LIBERTIES ENJOYED THERE WOULD LIBERTIES ENJOYED THERE WOULD NOT BE CURTAILED BUT A NOT BE CURTAILED BUT A TOALTARIAN TOALTARIAN TOTALITARIAN REGIME WAS BOUND TO TOTALITARIAN REGIME WAS BOUND TO EVENTUALLY PRODUCE A CULTURE EVENTUALLY PRODUCE A CULTURE COLLISION WHICH IT NOW MOST COLLISION WHICH IT NOW MOST CERTAINLY HAS. CERTAINLY HAS. THE WORLD IS ON EDGE AS THE HONG THE WORLD IS ON EDGE AS THE HONG KONG CRISIS UNFOLDS AND NOT KONG CRISIS UNFOLDS AND NOT SURPRISINGLY, DONALD TRUMP HAS SURPRISINGLY, DONALD TRUMP HAS NO IDEA WHAT TO SAY OR WHO HE IS NO IDEA WHAT TO SAY OR WHO HE IS ROOTING FOR, OR EVEN IF HE ROOTING FOR, OR EVEN IF HE SHOULD BE ROOTING FOR ANYONE IN SHOULD BE ROOTING FOR ANYONE IN HONG KONG, AND SO HE SAYS THE HONG KONG, AND SO HE SAYS THE MOST INANE THINGS EVER SPOKEN BY MOST INANE THINGS EVER SPOKEN BY AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN A AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN A CRISIS LIKE THIS, SHOUTING TO CRISIS LIKE THIS, SHOUTING TO REPORTERS OVER THE USUAL REPORTERS OVER THE USUAL HELICOPTER NOISE IN THE HELICOPTER NOISE IN THE BACKGROUND, I’M SURE IT WILL BACKGROUND, I’M SURE IT WILL WORK OUT. WORK OUT. I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYBODY, INCLUDING CHINA, BY EVERYBODY, INCLUDING CHINA, BY THE WAY. THE WAY. AS AN AFTER THOUGHT, THE AS AN AFTER THOUGHT, THE PRESIDENT SAID, I HOPE NOBODY PRESIDENT SAID, I HOPE NOBODY GETS KILLED. GETS KILLED. IN RUSSIA, PROTESTS OF A SIMILAR IN RUSSIA, PROTESTS OF A SIMILAR SPIRIT HAVE BEEN JOINED BY TENS SPIRIT HAVE BEEN JOINED BY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE PROTESTING IN MOSCOW. PROTESTING IN MOSCOW. LAST WEEKEND, THE FIFTH WEEKEND LAST WEEKEND, THE FIFTH WEEKEND THAT RUSSIANS HAVE RALLIED TO THAT RUSSIANS HAVE RALLIED TO DEMAND FAIR ELECTIONS, DEMAND FAIR ELECTIONS, TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS. TRANSPARENT ELECTIONS. THE RUSSIAN PROCESS HAVE GOTTEN THE RUSSIAN PROCESS HAVE GOTTEN LARGER BY THE WEEKEND. LARGER BY THE WEEKEND. ESTIMATES PUT LAST WEEKEND’S ESTIMATES PUT LAST WEEKEND’S CROWDS AT 50,000 PROTESTERS CROWDS AT 50,000 PROTESTERS AGAINST VLADIMIR PUTIN’S REGIME. AGAINST VLADIMIR PUTIN’S REGIME. THE RUSSIAN PROTESTS IN FAVOR OF THE RUSSIAN PROTESTS IN FAVOR OF FAIR ELECTION PROCESSES GO TO FAIR ELECTION PROCESSES GO TO THE VERY HEART OF THE OPERATING THE VERY HEART OF THE OPERATING PRINCIPLE OF THE RUSSIAN PRINCIPLE OF THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE GOVERNMENT WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE OF TRANSPARENCY. OF TRANSPARENCY. CRAIG MASON’S BRILLIANT CRAIG MASON’S BRILLIANT FIVE-PART HBO DRAMATIZATION OF FIVE-PART HBO DRAMATIZATION OF THE RUSSIAN NUCLEAR ACCIDENT AT THE RUSSIAN NUCLEAR ACCIDENT AT CHERNOBYL SHOWS THE CHERNOBYL SHOWS THE ANTI-TRANSPARENCY SYSTEM IN ANTI-TRANSPARENCY SYSTEM IN ACTION, AND WE ARE NOW POSSIBLY ACTION, AND WE ARE NOW POSSIBLY SEEING IT AGAIN IN REALTIME IN SEEING IT AGAIN IN REALTIME IN THE AFTER MATH OF ANOTHER THE AFTER MATH OF ANOTHER NUCLEAR ACCIDENT IN NORTHERN NUCLEAR ACCIDENT IN NORTHERN RUSSIA. RUSSIA. TODAY, RUSSIA AUTHORITIES TODAY, RUSSIA AUTHORITIES ANNOUNCED THE EVACUATION OF THE ANNOUNCED THE EVACUATION OF THE VILLAGE NEAREST TO THE SITE OF VILLAGE NEAREST TO THE SITE OF THAT NUCLEAR ACCIDENT WHICH LAST THAT NUCLEAR ACCIDENT WHICH LAST WEEK KILLED SEVEN PEOPLE AND WEEK KILLED SEVEN PEOPLE AND RELEASED RADIATION, APPARENTLY, RELEASED RADIATION, APPARENTLY, WHEN A SMALL NUCLEAR REACTOR WHEN A SMALL NUCLEAR REACTOR MALFUNCTIONED DURING THE TEST OF MALFUNCTIONED DURING THE TEST OF A NEW TYPE OF MISSILE NEAR A A NEW TYPE OF MISSILE NEAR A NAVAL WEAPONS TESTING SITE. NAVAL WEAPONS TESTING SITE. “THE NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTS “THE NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTS RUSSIAN OFFICIALS HAVE RELEASED RUSSIAN OFFICIALS HAVE RELEASED A FLURRY OF MISLEADING OR A FLURRY OF MISLEADING OR INCOMPLETE STATEMENTS PLAYING INCOMPLETE STATEMENTS PLAYING DOWN THE SEVERITY OF THE DOWN THE SEVERITY OF THE ACCIDENT WHICH THE MILITARY ACCIDENT WHICH THE MILITARY FIRST REPORTED ON THURSDAY AS A FIRST REPORTED ON THURSDAY AS A FIRE INVOLVING A LIQUID FUEL FIRE INVOLVING A LIQUID FUEL ROCKET ENGINE. ROCKET ENGINE. IT WAS NOT UNTIL SUNDAY THAT IT WAS NOT UNTIL SUNDAY THAT RUSSIAN SCIENTISTS CONCEDED THAT RUSSIAN SCIENTISTS CONCEDED THAT A REACTOR HAD RELEASED RADIATION A REACTOR HAD RELEASED RADIATION DURING A TEST ON AN OFFSHORE DURING A TEST ON AN OFFSHORE PLATFORM IN THE WHITE SEA. PLATFORM IN THE WHITE SEA. THAT PATTERN OF MURKINESS THAT PATTERN OF MURKINESS CONTINUED ON TUESDAY AS NEWS CONTINUED ON TUESDAY AS NEWS REPORTS AND OFFICIAL STATEMENTS REPORTS AND OFFICIAL STATEMENTS OFFERED ONLY THE VAGUEST OFFERED ONLY THE VAGUEST EXPLANATION FOR EVACUATION, AND EXPLANATION FOR EVACUATION, AND HOURS LATER SEEMED TO INDICATE HOURS LATER SEEMED TO INDICATE THAT IT HAD BEEN CALLED OFF. THAT IT HAD BEEN CALLED OFF. THE PRESIDENT COMMENTED ON THE THE PRESIDENT COMMENTED ON THE SITUATION YESTERDAY IN A TWEET SITUATION YESTERDAY IN A TWEET THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN WRITTEN FOR HIM BY HIS STAFF. FOR HIM BY HIS STAFF. THE UNITED STATES IS LEARNING THE UNITED STATES IS LEARNING MUCH FROM THE FAILED MISSILE MUCH FROM THE FAILED MISSILE EXPLOSION IN RUSSIA. EXPLOSION IN RUSSIA. WE HAVE SIMILAR, THOUGH MORE WE HAVE SIMILAR, THOUGH MORE ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY. THE RUSSIAN SKY FALL EXPLOSION THE RUSSIAN SKY FALL EXPLOSION HAS PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THE AIR HAS PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT THE AIR AROUND THE FACILITY AND FAR AROUND THE FACILITY AND FAR BEYOND NOT GOOD. BEYOND NOT GOOD. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS HAD PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE RUSSIAN PROTESTS FOR FAIR THE RUSSIAN PROTESTS FOR FAIR ELECTIONS. ELECTIONS. HE DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO SAY I HE DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO SAY I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYBODY. HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR EVERYBODY. LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, OUR FORMER U.S. TONIGHT, OUR FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA, MICHAEL AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA, MICHAEL McFALL, AN MSNBC NATIONAL McFALL, AN MSNBC NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST, AND WENDY SECURITY ANALYST, AND WENDY SHERMAN, AND AN MSNBC GLOBAL SHERMAN, AND AN MSNBC GLOBAL AFFAIRS CONTRIBUTOR, AND WENDY AFFAIRS CONTRIBUTOR, AND WENDY SHERMAN, I WANT TO START WITH SHERMAN, I WANT TO START WITH YOU ON THE SITUATION IN HONG YOU ON THE SITUATION IN HONG KONG. KONG. THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID NOTHING THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID NOTHING AND YET BY SAYING NOTHING HAS AND YET BY SAYING NOTHING HAS SAID EVERYTHING IN THAT HE IS SAID EVERYTHING IN THAT HE IS SUPPORTING, HE IS NOT IN ANY WAY SUPPORTING, HE IS NOT IN ANY WAY SUPPORTING THE PROTESTS FOR SUPPORTING THE PROTESTS FOR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE FROM FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE FROM THE CHINESE REGIME IN HONG KONG. THE CHINESE REGIME IN HONG KONG.>>IT’S REALLY QUITE>>IT’S REALLY QUITE EXTRAORDINARY, LAWRENCE, WE ARE EXTRAORDINARY, LAWRENCE, WE ARE SEEING SIGNS OF DEMOCRACY IN SEEING SIGNS OF DEMOCRACY IN RUSSIA, SIGNS OF DEMOCRACY HERE RUSSIA, SIGNS OF DEMOCRACY HERE IN HONG KONG, SIGNS OF IN HONG KONG, SIGNS OF DEMOCRACY, OF PEOPLE TRYING TO DEMOCRACY, OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET RID OF MADURO IN VENEZUELA. GET RID OF MADURO IN VENEZUELA. WE ARE SEEING ALL KINDS OF WE ARE SEEING ALL KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENING AROUND THE THINGS HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD, AND YET THE PRESIDENT WORLD, AND YET THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T EM BASEBRACE THE UNIVERS DOESN’T EM BASEBRACE THE UNIVERS DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS, THE DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS, THE AGREEMENT MADE IN THE HANDOVER AGREEMENT MADE IN THE HANDOVER OF HONG KONG BY THE UNITED OF HONG KONG BY THE UNITED KINGDOM TO CHINA THAT CREATED KINGDOM TO CHINA THAT CREATED ONE CHINA, BUT TWO SYSTEMS, SO ONE CHINA, BUT TWO SYSTEMS, SO THAT THE PEOPLE OF HONG KONG THAT THE PEOPLE OF HONG KONG COULD HAVE A QUASI DEMOCRACY AT COULD HAVE A QUASI DEMOCRACY AT LEAST UNTIL 2047, AND IT IS LEAST UNTIL 2047, AND IT IS REALLY DISMAYING AND IT’S QUITE REALLY DISMAYING AND IT’S QUITE EXTRAORDINARY BECAUSE EVEN MITCH EXTRAORDINARY BECAUSE EVEN MITCH McCONNELL OF WHOM I AM NOT A McCONNELL OF WHOM I AM NOT A FAN, HE STOPS EVERY GOOD THING FAN, HE STOPS EVERY GOOD THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE UNITED THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR THE AMERICAN STATES SENATE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, EVEN HE SAID THE WORLD PEOPLE, EVEN HE SAID THE WORLD IS WATCHING, AND THAT CHINA IS WATCHING, AND THAT CHINA SHOULD BE CAREFUL. SHOULD BE CAREFUL. OF COURSE, CHINA, AGAIN, TODAY, OF COURSE, CHINA, AGAIN, TODAY, BECAUSE IT’S TODAY ALREADY IN BECAUSE IT’S TODAY ALREADY IN CHINA, IS SAYING THE U.S. SHOULD CHINA, IS SAYING THE U.S. SHOULD BUG OUT. BUG OUT. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. IT’S AN INTERNAL AFFAIR, AND IT’S AN INTERNAL AFFAIR, AND THEY THINK THEY HAVE A GREEN THEY THINK THEY HAVE A GREEN LIGHT FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE LIGHT FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. UNITED STATES.>>JOE BIDEN TWEETED TODAY THE>>JOE BIDEN TWEETED TODAY THE BRAVE PROTESTERS IN HONG KONG BRAVE PROTESTERS IN HONG KONG ARE DEMANDING THE RIGHTS AND ARE DEMANDING THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS PROMISED TO THEM. FREEDOMS PROMISED TO THEM. THE U.S. SHOULD BE LEADING THE THE U.S. SHOULD BE LEADING THE FREE WORLD TO RALLY SUPPORT FREE WORLD TO RALLY SUPPORT BEHIND THEM AND WITH ONE DEVICE BEHIND THEM AND WITH ONE DEVICE DEFEND OUR SHARED DEMOCRATIC DEFEND OUR SHARED DEMOCRATIC IDEALS AND THE DESIRE FOR IDEALS AND THE DESIRE FOR LIBERTY THAT BEATS IN EVERY LIBERTY THAT BEATS IN EVERY HEART AND AMBASSADOR McFALL, HEART AND AMBASSADOR McFALL, THAT’S THE WAY PRESIDENTS IN THAT’S THE WAY PRESIDENTS IN THIS COUNTRY USED TO SOUND. THIS COUNTRY USED TO SOUND.>>THAT’S RIGHT.>>THAT’S RIGHT. AND I THINK WHEN THE HISTORY OF AND I THINK WHEN THE HISTORY OF THE TRUMP ERA IS WRITTEN, THERE THE TRUMP ERA IS WRITTEN, THERE WILL BE TWO DISTINGUISHING WILL BE TWO DISTINGUISHING FEATURES ABOUT HIS FOREIGN FEATURES ABOUT HIS FOREIGN POLICY, ONE, THE WITHDRAWAL POLICY, ONE, THE WITHDRAWAL DOCTRINE, HE WITHDRAWS FROM ALL DOCTRINE, HE WITHDRAWS FROM ALL KINDS OF AGREEMENTS AND TWO, HE KINDS OF AGREEMENTS AND TWO, HE IS DEMONSTRATED A CONSISTENCY IN IS DEMONSTRATED A CONSISTENCY IN NOT CARING ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND NOT CARING ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND HUMAN RIGHTS ON ALMOST EVERY HUMAN RIGHTS ON ALMOST EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT WENDY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT WENDY JUST MENTIONED, HE SAID NEXT TO JUST MENTIONED, HE SAID NEXT TO NOTHING, AND ON HONG KONG, HE NOTHING, AND ON HONG KONG, HE LOOKED AT HIS TWITTER FEED LOOKED AT HIS TWITTER FEED COMING ON, IT’S CLEAR HE’S COMING ON, IT’S CLEAR HE’S CONFUSED. CONFUSED. HE’S RE-TWEETING, THE HE’S RE-TWEETING, THE DEMONSTRATION VIDEOS, AND SAYING DEMONSTRATION VIDEOS, AND SAYING EVERYBODY WILL BE SAFE. EVERYBODY WILL BE SAFE. WHO IS HE REFERRING TO, TO THE WHO IS HE REFERRING TO, TO THE PROTESTERS, BECAUSE THEY MOST PROTESTERS, BECAUSE THEY MOST CERTAINLY DON’T FEEL SAFE RIGHT CERTAINLY DON’T FEEL SAFE RIGHT NOW AS THE CHINESE MILITARY IS NOW AS THE CHINESE MILITARY IS MASSING ON THE BORDERS NEXT TO MASSING ON THE BORDERS NEXT TO HONG KONG. HONG KONG.>>KAMALA HARRIS IS ALSO>>KAMALA HARRIS IS ALSO TWEETED, I STAND WITH THE TWEETED, I STAND WITH THE PROTESTERS IN HONG KONG AS HAVE PROTESTERS IN HONG KONG AS HAVE OTHER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. OTHER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES. LET’S LISTEN TO WHAT GORDON LET’S LISTEN TO WHAT GORDON CHANG HAS SAID ABOUT THIS. CHANG HAS SAID ABOUT THIS.>>THAT LANGUAGE I THOUGHT WAS>>THAT LANGUAGE I THOUGHT WAS INAPPROPRIATE ON THE PART OF THE INAPPROPRIATE ON THE PART OF THE PRESIDENT. PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT JUST A DISPUTE THIS IS NOT JUST A DISPUTE BETWEEN HONG KONG AND CHINA. BETWEEN HONG KONG AND CHINA. CHINA IS ATTACKING FREEDOM AND CHINA IS ATTACKING FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY, INCLUDING OURS, DEMOCRACY, INCLUDING OURS, ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD, AND THIS IS THE FRONT LINE OF FREEDOM IN THE FRONT LINE OF FREEDOM IN HONG KONG. HONG KONG. WE NEED A RINGING DECLARATION WE NEED A RINGING DECLARATION FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHICH SAYS THAT, STATES WHICH SAYS THAT, ESSENTIALLY IF CHINA USES FORCE ESSENTIALLY IF CHINA USES FORCE IN HONG KONG, IT WILL RESULT IN IN HONG KONG, IT WILL RESULT IN THE MOST SEVERE SANCTIONS THAT THE MOST SEVERE SANCTIONS THAT THE UNITED STATES PARTNERS AND THE UNITED STATES PARTNERS AND FRIENDS WILL IMPOSE ON THE FRIENDS WILL IMPOSE ON THE CHINESE. CHINESE. WE NEED TO STOP THIS. WE NEED TO STOP THIS. THIS IS A LEADER OF THE FREE THIS IS A LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD. WORLD. THIS IS NOT JUST SOME — ANOTHER THIS IS NOT JUST SOME — ANOTHER COUNTRY. COUNTRY.>>AND WENDY, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS>>AND WENDY, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS BEHAVING IN THE WEAKEST POSSIBLE BEHAVING IN THE WEAKEST POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE HAVE EVER SEEN A WAY THAT WE HAVE EVER SEEN A PRESIDENT IN A SITUATION LIKE PRESIDENT IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS. THIS. THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO TRIES THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO TRIES TO PRETEND THAT HE PLAYS TOUGH TO PRETEND THAT HE PLAYS TOUGH WITH CHINA. WITH CHINA.>>WITHOUT A DOUBT.>>WITHOUT A DOUBT. THERE IS NO CHINA POLICY. THERE IS NO CHINA POLICY. THERE IS NO CHINA STRATEGY. THERE IS NO CHINA STRATEGY. THERE’S A TRADE STRATEGY. THERE’S A TRADE STRATEGY. FOR THE PRESIDENT, EVERYTHING IS FOR THE PRESIDENT, EVERYTHING IS A COMMERCIAL TRANSACTION. A COMMERCIAL TRANSACTION. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EMPATHY. EMPATHY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE. PEOPLE. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMAN IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMAN RIGHTS, DIGNITY, DEMOCRACY, RIGHTS, DIGNITY, DEMOCRACY, FREEDOM, AND TO A STORY YOU’RE FREEDOM, AND TO A STORY YOU’RE GOING TO GET TO LATER TONIGHT, GOING TO GET TO LATER TONIGHT, WE HAVE KEN CUCCINELLI STANDING WE HAVE KEN CUCCINELLI STANDING UP AND SAYING THAT THE STATUE OF UP AND SAYING THAT THE STATUE OF LIBERTY SHOULD STAY GIVE ME YOUR LIBERTY SHOULD STAY GIVE ME YOUR TIRED, YOUR POOR, AND PEOPLE WHO TIRED, YOUR POOR, AND PEOPLE WHO CAN STAND ON THEIR OWN 2 FEET, CAN STAND ON THEIR OWN 2 FEET, AND WHEN PRESSED, HE SAID THE AND WHEN PRESSED, HE SAID THE STATUE OF LIBERTY WAS PUT UP STATUE OF LIBERTY WAS PUT UP WHEN PEOPLE WERE COMING FROM WHEN PEOPLE WERE COMING FROM EUROPE. EUROPE. THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION THAT THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS COMPLETELY CORRUPT, IS COMPLETELY CORRUPT, COMPLETELY WITHOUT A SENSE OF COMPLETELY WITHOUT A SENSE OF WHAT DIGNITY, FREEDOM, AND TO WHAT DIGNITY, FREEDOM, AND TO USE THE PRESIDENT’S OWN WORD, USE THE PRESIDENT’S OWN WORD, LIBERTY IS REALLY ABOUT. LIBERTY IS REALLY ABOUT.>>AND AMBASSADOR McFALL, THE>>AND AMBASSADOR McFALL, THE PROTESTS IN RUSSIA COULD BE PROTESTS IN RUSSIA COULD BE PROTESTS IN THE UNITED STATES PROTESTS IN THE UNITED STATES FOR FAIR ELECTIONS AND FOR FOR FAIR ELECTIONS AND FOR TRARNS TRARNS TRANSPARENCY. TRANSPARENCY. WE SAW STACEY ABRAMS WITH RICHAC WE SAW STACEY ABRAMS WITH RICHAC MADDOW. MADDOW. WE’RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT WE’RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT LATER THIS HOUR, BUT THERE THAT LATER THIS HOUR, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN SEEMS TO BE A CONNECTION BETWEEN WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN HONG KONG, WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN HONG KONG, WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN RUSSIA. WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN RUSSIA.>>THERE ARE PEOPLE STANDING UP>>THERE ARE PEOPLE STANDING UP FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES. FOR CIVIL LIBERTIES. THEY’RE DIFFERENT CASES, RIGHT, THEY’RE DIFFERENT CASES, RIGHT, BECAUSE IN RUSSIA WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE IN RUSSIA WHAT HAPPENED THERE WAS PEOPLE HAD GOT THE THERE WAS PEOPLE HAD GOT THE PETITIONS IN PLACE TO BE ON THE PETITIONS IN PLACE TO BE ON THE BALLOT, AND THEY WERE DENIED, BALLOT, AND THEY WERE DENIED, AND SO THEY’RE STANDING UP TO AND SO THEY’RE STANDING UP TO SAY, HEY, WE WANT OUR SAY, HEY, WE WANT OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO BE ON THE REPRESENTATIVES TO BE ON THE BALLOT BUT IN BOTH CASES THEY’RE BALLOT BUT IN BOTH CASES THEY’RE FACING AUTOCRATIC REGIMES FACING AUTOCRATIC REGIMES CRACKING DOWN. CRACKING DOWN. PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP, YOU PEOPLE ARE STANDING UP, YOU KNOW, IN A VERY VIGILANT WAY, IN KNOW, IN A VERY VIGILANT WAY, IN A VERY BRAVE WAY AND WE SHOULD A VERY BRAVE WAY AND WE SHOULD BE STANDING UP WITH THEM. BE STANDING UP WITH THEM. AT A MINIMUM, I HOPE TRUMP AT A MINIMUM, I HOPE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS SENDING THE ADMINISTRATION IS SENDING THE SIGNALS, ESPECIALLY TO THE SIGNALS, ESPECIALLY TO THE CHINESE AUTHORITIES OF THE CHINESE AUTHORITIES OF THE DANGEROUS CONSEQUENCES OF TAKING DANGEROUS CONSEQUENCES OF TAKING MILITARY ACTION AT HONG KONG, MILITARY ACTION AT HONG KONG, BECAUSE THAT WILL TRIGGER NOT BECAUSE THAT WILL TRIGGER NOT JUST PROBLEMS WITH DEMOCRACY AND JUST PROBLEMS WITH DEMOCRACY AND HUMAN RIGHTS, BUT THERE WILL BE HUMAN RIGHTS, BUT THERE WILL BE MAJOR NEGATIVE ECONOMIC MAJOR NEGATIVE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES NOT ONLY FOR CHINA CONSEQUENCES NOT ONLY FOR CHINA BUT THE WORLD ECONOMY, SO THE BUT THE WORLD ECONOMY, SO THE PRESIDENT IS NOT DOING IT PRESIDENT IS NOT DOING IT PUBLICLY. PUBLICLY. I HOPE THE REST OF THE I HOPE THE REST OF THE ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING ACTION. ADMINISTRATION IS TAKING ACTION.>>AMBASSADOR McFAUL TO THE>>AMBASSADOR McFAUL TO THE NUCLEAR ACTION IN RUSSIA, THE NUCLEAR ACTION IN RUSSIA, THE PROTESTS ARE ABOUT A TRANSPARENT PROTESTS ARE ABOUT A TRANSPARENT GOVERNMENT PROSE OF GETTING ON GOVERNMENT PROSE OF GETTING ON BALLOTS AND HAVING REAL BALLOTS AND HAVING REAL ELECTIONINGS ELECTIONINGS ELECTIONS, AND HERE IS THIS SAME ELECTIONS, AND HERE IS THIS SAME GOVERNMENT THAT IS BEHAVING, IT GOVERNMENT THAT IS BEHAVING, IT SEEMS, VERY SIMILARLY TO WHAT WE SEEMS, VERY SIMILARLY TO WHAT WE SAW AFTER THE CHERNOBYL ACCIDENT SAW AFTER THE CHERNOBYL ACCIDENT 30 YEARS AGO WITH THIS REFUSAL 30 YEARS AGO WITH THIS REFUSAL TO DEAL DIRECTLY AND HONESTLY, TO DEAL DIRECTLY AND HONESTLY, INCLUDING WITH THE PEOPLE WHOSE INCLUDING WITH THE PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES COULD BE ENDANGERED BY IT. LIVES COULD BE ENDANGERED BY IT.>>I AGREE.>>I AGREE. AND FIRST OFF, I WANT TO EXPRESS AND FIRST OFF, I WANT TO EXPRESS MY CON DOLLDOLENCES, TO THE PEOP MY CON DOLLDOLENCES, TO THE PEOP THE FAMILIES WHO WERE LOST IN THE FAMILIES WHO WERE LOST IN THE TRAGEDY. THE TRAGEDY. DO WE NEED NUCLEAR POWERED DO WE NEED NUCLEAR POWERED CRUISE MISSILES IN THE WORLD, I CRUISE MISSILES IN THE WORLD, I DON’T THINK SO, BUT THE FACT DON’T THINK SO, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GO BACK THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GO BACK TO OLD SOVIET WAYS AND COVER IT TO OLD SOVIET WAYS AND COVER IT UP ARE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS UP ARE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS MIKEL GORBACHEV AFTER CHERNOBYL MIKEL GORBACHEV AFTER CHERNOBYL THAT LED TO A PIVOT, A MORE OPEN THAT LED TO A PIVOT, A MORE OPEN SOCIETY. SOCIETY. THEY ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE IN THEY ARE PLAYING WITH FIRE IN THE 21st CENTURY TO ASSUME THAT THE 21st CENTURY TO ASSUME THAT THE CITIZENS OF RUSSIA, THE CITIZENS OF RUSSIA, SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE WITH ACCESS SOPHISTICATED PEOPLE WITH ACCESS TO INFORMATION ARE NOT GOING TO TO INFORMATION ARE NOT GOING TO DEMAND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FROM DEMAND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THAT GOVERNMENT. THAT GOVERNMENT.>>WENDY SHERMAN, YOU AND>>WENDY SHERMAN, YOU AND MICHAEL McFAUL WORKED IN MICHAEL McFAUL WORKED IN ADMINISTRATIONS WHERE WHAT YOU ADMINISTRATIONS WHERE WHAT YOU WERE PRESENTING AT YOUR LEVEL TO WERE PRESENTING AT YOUR LEVEL TO FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS WAS BACKED FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS WAS BACKED UP BOTH PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY UP BOTH PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY BY WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING. BY WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING. AMBASSADOR McFAUL SAYS HE’S AMBASSADOR McFAUL SAYS HE’S HOPING THAT THE FOREIGN POLICY HOPING THAT THE FOREIGN POLICY ESTABLISHMENT IS COMMUNICATING ESTABLISHMENT IS COMMUNICATING TO CHINA IN A BAY THAT GETS TO CHINA IN A BAY THAT GETS THROUGH TO THEM ABOUT THE THROUGH TO THEM ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS. IMPORTANCE OF THIS. WHY WOULD THEY TAKE ANYTHING WHY WOULD THEY TAKE ANYTHING SERIOUSLY FROM THE TRUMP STATE SERIOUSLY FROM THE TRUMP STATE DEPARTMENT IF THEY SEE THE DEPARTMENT IF THEY SEE THE TWEETS OF DONALD TRUMP AND THE TWEETS OF DONALD TRUMP AND THE PUBLIC COMMENTS OF DONALD TRUMP PUBLIC COMMENTS OF DONALD TRUMP WHERE HE DOESN’T SEEM TO CARE WHERE HE DOESN’T SEEM TO CARE ABOUT THIS AT ALL. ABOUT THIS AT ALL.>>INDEED.>>INDEED. MOST LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD MOST LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE DECIDED THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAVE DECIDED THE ONLY PERSON WHO DOES MATTER AS THE PRESIDENT DOES MATTER AS THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF SAYS IS DONALD TRUMP. HIMSELF SAYS IS DONALD TRUMP. AND SO EVEN WHEN DIPLOMATS AND AND SO EVEN WHEN DIPLOMATS AND THERE AREN’T NEARLY ENOUGH OF THERE AREN’T NEARLY ENOUGH OF THEM, AND THEY CERTAINLY AREN’T THEM, AND THEY CERTAINLY AREN’T ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT MIKE ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT MIKE AND I WOULD HAVE DONE. AND I WOULD HAVE DONE. WE WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING TO WE WOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING TO OUR COLLEAGUES OVER THE WORLD, OUR COLLEAGUES OVER THE WORLD, GOING TO THE UNITED NATIONS TO GOING TO THE UNITED NATIONS TO ASK THAT THIS SITUATION BE ASK THAT THIS SITUATION BE LOOKED AT, THE UNITED NATIONS IS LOOKED AT, THE UNITED NATIONS IS IN FACT STARTING ITS OWN IN FACT STARTING ITS OWN INVESTIGATION OF POLICE INVESTIGATION OF POLICE BRUTALITY, IN HONG KONG, AND I BRUTALITY, IN HONG KONG, AND I ASSUME SOMEONE’S GOING TO TAKE A ASSUME SOMEONE’S GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WAS REALLY A FLYING LOOK AT WHAT WAS REALLY A FLYING CHERNOBYL ON A MISSILE THAT TOOK CHERNOBYL ON A MISSILE THAT TOOK PLACE, A FLYING NUCLEAR REACTOR PLACE, A FLYING NUCLEAR REACTOR IN ESSENCE, SOMETHING WE BEGAN IN ESSENCE, SOMETHING WE BEGAN IN THE 1960s AND PUT ASIDE IN THE 1960s AND PUT ASIDE BECAUSE IT WAS SO DANGEROUS AND BECAUSE IT WAS SO DANGEROUS AND FRAUGHT WITH TROUBLE, BUT ALL OF FRAUGHT WITH TROUBLE, BUT ALL OF THAT KIND OF DIPLOMACY, ALL OF THAT KIND OF DIPLOMACY, ALL OF THAT TECHNICAL EXPERTISE IS NOT THAT TECHNICAL EXPERTISE IS NOT BEING BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AND BEING BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AND EVEN IF IT WERE, AS YOU POINT EVEN IF IT WERE, AS YOU POINT OUT, NOBODY WILL MUCH CARE IF OUT, NOBODY WILL MUCH CARE IF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS REALLY JUST SAYING STATES IS REALLY JUST SAYING NEVER MIND, AS MIKE SAID, I’VE NEVER MIND, AS MIKE SAID, I’VE WITHDRAWN FROM THE WORLD, YOU’RE WITHDRAWN FROM THE WORLD, YOU’RE ON YOUR OWN. ON YOUR OWN. I’LL STAY OUT OF YOUR BUSINESS. I’LL STAY OUT OF YOUR BUSINESS. YOU STAY OUT OF MINE, AND JUST YOU STAY OUT OF MINE, AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT AMERICA IS GREAT MAKE SURE THAT AMERICA IS GREAT AGAIN WHEN I THINK AMERICA WAS AGAIN WHEN I THINK AMERICA WAS PRETTY GREAT, CAN BE GREATER PRETTY GREAT, CAN BE GREATER ALWAYS, BUT THE PRESIDENT’S PATH ALWAYS, BUT THE PRESIDENT’S PATH IS A PATH OF DESTRUCTIONINGS.